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Gonzaleznut
08-02-2007, 02:14 AM
There are several cards on the list that I do not believe exist and therefore, need to be taken off the list:

1996 Topps Members Only 55 #18 - I believe this to actually be a dupe listing with the correct version rightly listed under 1997.
1996 Pinnacle Aficianado First Pitch Preview - although cards were made of some players, Juan was not one of them.
1997 Leaf Fractal Matrix Die Cuts - both X axis cards, Y-axis #101, and Z-axis #353 - I have only ever seen or heard of the two we have pictures of on the list.
1998 Pacific Online Winners - all three cards - Never seen 'em.Now I know that just because I have never seen a card doesn't make it not exist, but these are cards that I don't think any Juan collector has seen. Please prove me wrong. Maybe some of our newer members can help with this??

jzk_ksy
08-02-2007, 03:04 AM
Mike,I just went through my 97 leaf and you may be right I don't have the x-axis cards that I had marked...I took them off my have list...

Kevin

knr47
08-02-2007, 04:24 AM
I have never seen any of the above cards, but if the '96 Aficionado First Pitch Preview does exist, then I think I know who has one. There was a collector named Rich who used the ebay id donyboy23, and he amassed a truly enormous collection of samples, promos, and previews in the late 1990's and early 2000's. He hasn't bought or sold anything on ebay in a couple years, but his About Me page shows a First Pitch Preview #99 on his "Have" list. I tend to believe him because I remember he offered some huge $$$ for First Pitch Preview cards on the Usenet message boards during that time. I have tried to contact him a couple times in the last year or so, but I've never gotten a response.

Another card that I would like to see is the '99 SP Signature Autographs Gold NO AU. Who has seen that one?

jjt111
08-02-2007, 05:20 AM
donyboy23..... good old Rich. What a blow hard he was. Someone could of shot him over road rage by now. He would go off to no end. He offered big money for stand up samples but when I found a source for some he tried to trade even up common for stars. Said commons were scarce, much more then the stars were. Enjoyed his letter like emails.
I'm still waiting on a reply from Jacob on what he might know about the First Pitch.

jjt111
08-02-2007, 05:28 AM
Wil, aircorp41, has a Pacific card for sure as I've tried to but it. Rdpt.Wnr#750 Gold Stamped Online Winner

It is the only card of the above four that I know for sure exists.

Gonzaleznut
08-03-2007, 04:40 PM
I have another one that I think should be taken off the list. The 2002 Topps Home Team Advantage #340 w/Boone/Juan/ARod. I have the entire HTA set and this card (as well as all of the foil cards in the set) did not have the HTA stamp on them. They are exactly like the regular issue card. There is nothing distinguishing for this card.

Gonzaleznut
08-03-2007, 04:47 PM
1996 Topps Members Only 55 #18 - I believe this to actually be a dupe listing with the correct version rightly listed under 1997.
1997 Leaf Fractal Matrix Die Cuts - both X axis cards, Y-axis #101, and Z-axis #353 - I have only ever seen or heard of the two we have pictures of on the list.Unless I hear someone object I will remove these cards from the list this weekend.

nosterbor
08-03-2007, 06:38 PM
I Have A 1998 On Line Winners #732-a

freddie
08-03-2007, 07:10 PM
I Have A 1998 On Line Winners #732-a
Can you upload a scan of the card?

nosterbor
08-03-2007, 10:47 PM
i will do that tonight. i have to get the card out.

Gonzaleznut
08-04-2007, 11:51 PM
Here is another one. Don't think it exists. I know it says I have it, but I think I am just confused.

#498 1997 Score Premium Stock (http://www.vintagegaming.org/juangonzalez/pictures.php?cardid=936)

jjt111
08-05-2007, 10:54 PM
This is what makes this site so helpful. I had thought that since I had the 498 and the hr498 that one might be the premium and so catologed it as so. But we have since just added another card for it and I correct my list accordingly. But what do I put this under? I place a regular 198 card next to it so you can see the size and that they look the same ....... except number

Gonzaleznut
08-05-2007, 11:01 PM
This is what makes this site so helpful. I had thought that since I had the 498 and the hr498 that one might be the premium and so catologed it as so. But we have since just added another card for it and I correct my list accordingly. But what do I put this under? I place a regular 198 card next to it so you can see the size and that they look the same ....... except number

I have the same large card. It should definitely be added. I just don't know what to call it.

jjt111
08-05-2007, 11:02 PM
#6 Score jumbo...... I guess!

Gonzaleznut
08-05-2007, 11:06 PM
#6 Score jumbo...... I guess!

Sounds good to me. Will you add it?

jjt111
08-05-2007, 11:31 PM
yup

juanfan19
08-09-2007, 03:19 PM
there is a FPP of Gonzo. Rich has (or had) one. I tried my hardest to get it from him several years ago, but he wouldn't sell. I was one of the lucky ones to get a FPP in the mail (got Tony Gwynn), and I sold it to him for $100 if I remember correctly. You had to take a online trivia thing with Pinnacle and they mailed you one. There probably was way less than 10 of Gonzalez made, maybe even less than 5.

jjt111
08-09-2007, 03:29 PM
Wasn't he a card. He would rant about Dr. Beckett and his pricing forever.

jjt111
08-10-2007, 11:04 PM
I got the 1998 Pacific Online Winners card today and will post the scan late tonight. It's nothing really special other then a gold stamp that says Pacific Online Winner. But atleast we know they exist.

Gonzaleznut
08-10-2007, 11:37 PM
I got the 1998 Pacific Online Winners card today and will post the scan late tonight. It's nothing really special other then a gold stamp that says Pacific Online Winner. But atleast we know they exist.

Where did you find it?? And how much??

jjt111
08-10-2007, 11:52 PM
From a collector that had it and was willing to sell it to me for more then it was worth. I had an opportunity to buy it in the past but it had some damage to it so I declined. But since we needed to verify its existance I made the sacrifice. The sacrifice is I've met my monthly limit I set for Juan cards and it's only the 10th of month. First time in a long time that has happened as my limit was the same as what you had set on yourself. But to have a card that belonged to Akar added to my collection along with others that I got coming hopefully will satisfy me.

jjt111
08-11-2007, 05:16 AM
I added the image of the #750 98 online winners card. I also added the #sc16 95 Score jumbo. I added on the side a regular card so that the size comparison would be there as they have the same front. The back only really had the print run number as the difference.

jjt111
08-12-2007, 04:18 AM
Well, no comment about them?

nosterbor
08-12-2007, 04:44 AM
Well, no comment about them?i see what you ment about the condition of the on line winners,i would rather have that then NONE! the jumbo is great never see that one before. i just started looking for the large cards only 6 months ago,running out of cards to get.