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juanfan19
09-02-2008, 04:27 PM
This is a new one to me!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1993-Ted-Williams-Limited-Juan-Gonzalez-Autod-Card_W0QQitemZ140262504149QQihZ004QQcategoryZ60520 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



http://i10.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/08/b9/f429_1.JPG

http://i13.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/09/8c/3311_1.JPG

Gonzaleznut
09-02-2008, 04:41 PM
Yeah, It just sold for $250 BIN!!! I guess I will never get a Ted Williams Auto because I would never pay more than $150 for one.

juanfan19
09-02-2008, 04:46 PM
i bought it :) I wouldn't normally pay that much, but I have never seen a red one in my life.

nosterbor
09-02-2008, 05:56 PM
i would have paid more:eek: but the moron would not return my email! i asked for a scan of the back 5 min after it was on ebay.even gave him my home phone #. some are just stupid! just as well now.the spure of the moment to get a card you do not have.you do not think of what you are doing.now i am glad he did not get in contact with me! come to think of it ,it was prob singed after they got out the back door at a baseball game.i just still think it is not a ligit card with the red ink.knowing we have unsigned ones on this site with just the "B" on the back. what do you think DAN?

538
09-03-2008, 12:13 AM
i bought it :) I wouldn't normally pay that much, but I have never seen a red one in my life.

I have all four signed cards and I also have 3 of 4 signed but un numbered cards from the vault that they made for extras in case the real cards got messed up. I have never heard of a red card and suspect that it is not legit. I spoke to a person who flew to PR to have Juan sign the card. There was a problem in getting the signature on the card to stay. That is why they experimented with the black and blue ink. He described the problem and I communicated with him several times. That was at least ten years ago. I would be extremply surprised to find that this red card is the real deal. I do not believe the card in red is legit. But on the other hand, what do I know? I only have 538 cards.

538

SAM JOHNSON
09-03-2008, 02:03 AM
I WOULD ALSO SAY IT IS NOT A PACK PULLED CARD!:o

juanfan19
09-03-2008, 01:42 PM
well I have 3 of the 4 now, all 3 being different colors. The sig and numbers on the card look just like the others, if its a forgery its a darn good one. Plus why would someone forge Juan's sig? Most folks have no clue what these cards are worth.

And who would even have a "B" lettered card available to do so. If they were that smart (and lucky to have the card to forge), I would think they would forge it in black or blue.

Anyway it's interesting to say the least.

adelith
09-03-2008, 05:02 PM
You are so rite! Congratulations on this catch, I'll resume my message simple, if you ever decide to sell this card, just contact me first! :rolleyes: You won't regret it!

well I have 3 of the 4 now, all 3 being different colors. The sig and numbers on the card look just like the others, if its a forgery its a darn good one. Plus why would someone forge Juan's sig? Most folks have no clue what these cards are worth.

And who would even have a "B" lettered card available to do so. If they were that smart (and lucky to have the card to forge), I would think they would forge it in black or blue.

Anyway it's interesting to say the least.

freddie
09-03-2008, 09:16 PM
I don't think there is any question as to the authenticity of the signature, it looks genuine. Rob was intimating that someone may have had Juan sign the card after the fact.

jjt111
09-14-2008, 01:15 AM
I would of payed that and much more for it! Great card and addition to your collection.

Congrats,
Jonas

juanfan19
09-16-2008, 03:18 AM
Here they are together:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/jdorule/DSC_0267.jpg


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/jdorule/DSC_0268.jpg

adelith
09-16-2008, 11:37 AM
Awsome trio, congratulations. By the way, I'm ready to buy it from you! :cool::cool::):):D:D:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Gonzaleznut
09-16-2008, 01:07 PM
How can you possibly keep such nice cards in such crappy holders??

juanfan19
09-16-2008, 06:50 PM
How can you possibly keep such nice cards in such crappy holders??

ah, they're just holders. I personally prefer the toploaders and penny sleeves, as they are the safest way to store them.

Screw downs may look nice, but they aren't very safe. I've noticed many times the glossy cards stick to the holders, and in worst cases get crushed.

nosterbor
09-17-2008, 06:59 AM
ah, they're just holders. I personally prefer the toploaders and penny sleeves, as they are the safest way to store them.

Screw downs may look nice, but they aren't very safe. I've noticed many times the glossy cards stick to the holders, and in worst cases get crushed.
amen to that! with tape on top to pinch it shut on the top so the card will not move.you could throw it at a brick wall and it will not hurt the card! try that with a screw down and it flys apart,guess what the card looks like then!but screw downs are good if you run them over with a car or try to stick them with a fork.they are not water proof.do not have one in your top shirt pocket and bend over a toilet! they are not good for that.the tape on the top of the top load keeps the water out! and do not let the dog get a hold of the top load,not nice! over all i have to say the top load hands down! one more thing top loads and sleeves have uv stablizers in the plastic.screw downs do not. how many yellow brown tops loads have you seen and the card still is mint!

Rafferity
09-17-2008, 10:37 AM
I agree, I learned my lesson the hard way. I had pulled a Tiger Woods Shirt out of the 2001 Upper Deck and placed in a screwdown. I took it somewhere and placed it in the armrest, unbeknownest to me, my wife had place a SEALED bag of microwave popcorn. Needless to say I forgot card and she forgot bag. I opened the armrest one day, and was shocked!!:eek: My Woods card was YELLOW!!! And the popcorn plastic was too, the bag leaked. Needless to say I still have card, but it now is just a card that WAS a mighty pull....Guess I could pass it off as Tiger was eating popcorn before they took his shirt:cool::p
But I still have some screwdowns with Juan in it.:o

adelith
09-17-2008, 07:14 PM
Screwdown looks great, and the cards inside them looks greater!
Just have to be carefull!
I've all my Juan's inside srewdowns.

mcabee1
09-18-2008, 04:34 AM
if it isnt to thick, all my cards in my collection are in 9 pocket pages. i like to look at them and a binder is still the easiest way to do o

nosterbor
09-18-2008, 07:48 AM
if it isnt to thick, all my cards in my collection are in 9 pocket pages. i like to look at them and a binder is still the easiest way to do o
do not drop one down the stairs!