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Gonzaleznut
10-07-2006, 08:53 PM
I think that it would be nice to let each other know when there are auctions that we see for cards one of us need.

Freddie, This would be one for you.

http://cgi.ebay.com/03-DONRUSS-STUDIO-JUAN-GONZALEZ-BAT-CARD_W0QQitemZ170036849982QQihZ007QQcategoryZ44841 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

freddie
10-07-2006, 09:11 PM
Yeah I already saw that one. At the moment I am trying to limit my self to not more than $3 for non serial GU cards that routinely sell for $1 - $2. That one is $4 shipped..

I do think the topic of the thread is a great idea though.

Gonzaleznut
10-08-2006, 01:14 AM
You make a good point Freddie. I don't mean to get on a soapbox, but what is the deal with eBay. Does anyone else find the s/h to be a rip off? Too many sellers use shipping as a way to raise margins.

Let's say there is a card that you need and it books for $2.50. The seller think he is making a good deal by starting the auction at $0.99. However, when you add in shipping at even $2 then you are now paying 120% of high book value for a card that should cost no more than $1 at your local shop.

Then you have cases like I faced today...I paid $5 for shipping. F-i-v-e dollars. Now, it was a card I really wanted so I am paying it, but still...it certainly enters my mind when I am bidding. I look at the total cost to get the card to my house.

Think this thru with me for a second. A card cost $0.69 to mail, $0.25 for the bubble mailer, a dime for the topload. Add $0.50 for listing fees and nobody should charge more than $2 for shipping. Most people do charge that I realize, but way too many gouge you. I send emails to the high shipping sellers, but they usually come back with some smart aleck remark. Most don't care.

That is another reason I buy from beckett so much is the ability to get several cards from one dealer all at once and save on shipping.

I think paying $3 to $5 total for any game used card serial numbered over 50 is a good deal. More than that and I am not inclined to bid. I guess that is where patience comes in.

Oh well, I have to go...I have some auctions ending soon and I need to do some stretching before I have to bend over and take it up the...

freddie
10-08-2006, 01:23 AM
I think we all factor the s/h price into the card's total before bidding. I can't really count my local card shops - if they had Juan Gonzalez cards, they would be 75% of high book.

I spend a lot of time in the eBay shops looking for sellers who have multiple $5 - $10 BV cards that I need and charge $.25 or $.50 for each additional card.

Don't waste time contacting sellers as they will each have their own reason and will shove it down your throat. Gas, time, etc, etc.

freddie
10-08-2006, 01:25 AM
Example I just bought all these from one seller an hour ago:

2004 JUAN GONZALEZ GAME-USED BAT SWATCH SP'100 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8804984665&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT)
2002 JUAN GONZALEZ INDIANS RBI KINGS GAME-USED BAT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8805936453&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT)
2004 JUAN GONZALEZ TIMBER&THREADS GAME-USED BAT SWATCH (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8824003060&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT)
2004 JUAN GONZALEZ DUAL GAME-WORN JERSEY SP'150 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130012751263&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=003)

Each card was $2.49 and S/H was $4.50. The way I look at is - I paid $5.49 for one card and $3 for 3 cards. I couldn't have done any better if I was patient and bid on each card in other auctions.

Gonzaleznut
10-09-2006, 04:35 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Juan-Gonzalez-Dual-Game-Used-Card-x3-Lot-Plus-Inserts_W0QQitemZ160038905121QQihZ006QQcategoryZ63 6QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thought you might like this Freddie.

freddie
10-09-2006, 04:50 PM
Yeah I've been pondering that auction. Guess waiting for someome to take it or bid on it to decide it for me.

freddie
10-09-2006, 04:59 PM
I'll pass. I would bid $10 but not $15. I have been able to find similar sets of cards in eBay shops from sellers who combine s/h for cheaper.

Gonzaleznut
10-10-2006, 01:32 PM
I don't know if it is just me, but I see Juan's cards going for a lot more than they used to. There are many more bids and it is tougher to find bargains. Just thought I wuold get everybody's take.

freddie
10-10-2006, 02:55 PM
Yes, there seems to be an uptake going on.

jjt111
10-11-2006, 01:23 AM
The 99 Topps tek gold I had bid on I already have. Got too excited and didn't look until after I had bid. But I only made a $5 bid and certainly expect it to bring more.

Just thought I would pass that on,
Jonas

jjt111
10-11-2006, 01:37 AM
I’m still puzzled at the Ted ebay buyer. Besides .01 auctions and few private auctions of adult stuff he hasn’t bought a Juan card or a Williams card. Yes he did bid on that one signed shirt but didn’t win. Yes he did buy a car from ebay of some value @ 9000. But to join in 2005 and have 37 feedbacks and 32 of them coming in the last month is weird. The car was a Boston area car and that might make him from that area and in turn make him a Williams’s collector but still too many questions unanswered. I hate to see a card like that going to anyone other then a Juan collector!

jjt111
10-12-2006, 04:14 AM
230038068136 > 495 1991 Topps cards. That is something only Rob would bid on!

;)
Jonas

jjt111
11-08-2006, 01:34 AM
ebay auction # 140050071362 > 1992 topps triple header photo ball.

Just something that I have in my collection that is in better then average condition and rarely have the whole package.

freddie
11-08-2006, 01:39 AM
The box is in better condition than mine but I'm happy with what I have.

Gonzaleznut
11-08-2006, 03:03 AM
I like the item and I need it, but doesn't that seem a little picey?

freddie
11-08-2006, 03:05 AM
I like the item and I need it, but doesn't that seem a little picey?
I think so, seems more like it could be had for $5 with patience.

freddie
11-10-2006, 10:05 PM
Jonas: 2002 Playoff Piece of the Game Jersey (http://cgi.ebay.com/Juan-Gonzalez-Rangers-2002-Playoff-Piece-Game-MATERIALS_W0QQitemZ330039532182QQihZ014QQcategoryZ 56120QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Make a low offer.

freddie
11-15-2006, 11:46 PM
Think I got a good deal here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=8828820986

jjt111
11-16-2006, 01:43 AM
you sure did!

Gonzaleznut
11-16-2006, 02:00 AM
Think I got a good deal here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=8828820986


I agree. That is a tough card to pick up for less than $20.

freddie
11-20-2006, 07:50 PM
Jonas, I thought you had the 91 football back card but your list doesn't have it now. There is one on eBay now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1991-Topps-Juan-Gonzalez-Wrong-Back-Football-Back_W0QQitemZ190049935753QQihZ009QQcategoryZ55934 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

jjt111
11-20-2006, 09:59 PM
I'm sure I have it but have yet to find it! Thanks for the thought. I might get it if I don't find it.

jjt111
11-20-2006, 11:09 PM
Found it! It was graded is why it wasn't in my book.

freddie
11-20-2006, 11:18 PM
Replace our picture with those pictures.

jjt111
12-01-2006, 04:11 AM
JUAN GONZALEZ 93 Ted Williams PRINTING PRESS PLATE 1/1!

freddie
12-01-2006, 05:21 AM
JUAN GONZALEZ 93 Ted Williams PRINTING PRESS PLATE 1/1!
They sold one a couple months ago .. I think 2725 won it for about $50

Gonzaleznut
12-01-2006, 04:59 PM
Have you guys seen the auctions of this former Juan collector?

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZbrugvuQQhtZ-1

His prices are outrageous. I sent him an email telling him that he is being a little unrealistic and he should consider lowering his intial price. Look at his response.

"I wouldn't piss me off if i were you.
WHo the hell are you to tell me how much to sell my juans for.
And yes i did Really bid too much for these.
If you dont like the prices then dont bid.
Juan Gonzalez is a LOSER. A DRUG USER.
A CHEATER. looking at these cards makes me want to vomit.
Just remember, one more stupid question/comment and i will let EBAY know about your Harassment. "

He is actually selling some pretty good cards there.

freddie
12-01-2006, 05:13 PM
Yeah, he appears to be enticing angel-415 to pay the prices.

jjt111
12-01-2006, 06:07 PM
He's not a Juan collector. The asshole only has recent cards. I emailed him and told him the 2002 card was a 2005 Pastime card and never got a reply. True player collectors, I have found to be good people. He isn't acting that way.

Jonas

jjt111
12-01-2006, 06:10 PM
Angel-415 must have a nice collection!!!!

nosterbor
12-02-2006, 05:10 PM
ANY CARD # 50 OR LESS GET's ME GOING! OUTSTANDING!

ROB.

freddie
12-05-2006, 01:42 AM
Too funny.

I forgot to pay my eBay fees and my account was suspended so when my snipe bid on the 1993 Refractor was placed, it wasn't allowed. I bid $110 and I would have most likely won.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190056747398

Gonzaleznut
12-05-2006, 01:25 PM
No you would not have. Rob had a $150 proxy bid on it. I was so pissed at him for outbidding me. I could have had that card for $43. He said he didn't realize I was bidding on it.

freddie
12-05-2006, 02:28 PM
$150? That seller has sold several PSA9 recently that only sold for $120 - $130 and Rob didn't win those so I assumed he didn't bid that high on this one.

freddie
12-05-2006, 05:32 PM
Too bad that your agreement broke down. This is what I am doing for you, Mike and Jonas.

I used to scan the new auctions and put my bids immediately into my snipe program. Now I scan new auctions to see what is coming up and any good buy it nows. I no longer schedule my snipe bids until the last day of the auction. If I see that one of you is winning an item with at least a semi respectable bid and the item isn't rare, then I won't bid on it. By rare, I mean like a card serial numbered around 50 or less or exceptions like the 93 Finest Refractor.

Of course, I am not bidding on many items right now so I don't have much of an effect on what you pay for cards anyway. The eagerness of Puerto Ricans to pay alot plus Rob's desire to own the market have greatly turned me off. I feel if I just wait, even if it is years, these cards are going to be had for a lot cheaper. I may miss out on the rare stuff but I am the opposite of Rob, low number serial cards do not interest me any more than commons. I only care about variety.

Gonzaleznut
12-05-2006, 06:40 PM
I COULDN"T AGREE MORE!! That is exactly how I think it should work. I don't have a problem with one of you wanting a card and if it is rare then it is fair game. Otherwise we should have consideration for each other.

What made me mad about Rob is that he already has two 93 refractors. He doesn't need another one. I don't have any. It just made me a little angry.

jjt111
12-06-2006, 01:25 AM
With PSA having over 170 of those graded and BGS having 31 I would think the ungraded ones like I have are the rarest. But mine is off center much like this one ( 280056734372 ) so I would like a 9 or 10 as well to replace it. I did not place a bid on the the one Mike had a bid on hoping he would get it to fill his hole in his collection. Next time maybe.

Jonas

freddie
12-06-2006, 03:07 AM
Good thing that we aren't after Pudge's 93 refractor

PSA10 $2400 http://cgi.ebay.com/1993-FINEST-REFRACTOR-IVAN-RODRIGUEZ-PSA-10-47_W0QQitemZ190057190723QQihZ009QQcategoryZ55931QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The PSA 9 selles for $600 - $800

Gonzaleznut
12-06-2006, 12:54 PM
Rob also won a PSA 10 Juan 93 refractor yesterday. He got it for $177. Unbelievable!! I am going to try and convince him to sell me his PSA 9 he just won now. We'll see.

Gonzaleznut
12-07-2006, 02:08 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140059243003&rd=1&rd=1

I almost bid on this Freddie but I just couldn't stomach paying $4.95 for shipping. I think that autograph might be real by the way. Also let me know if that is the one with or without "Crayola" on it.

freddie
12-07-2006, 02:13 AM
If you compare the pictures, the logo is at a different position so I figured .. why not

Gonzaleznut
12-11-2006, 06:56 PM
Where is everybody!! There has been quite a bit of good autographed cards on eBay lately. They have been going for pretty high prices too...$20-$30.

Angel-415 has been bidding like crazy.

I am still uploading pictures as I see them. Is anyone else working on posting scans?

freddie
12-11-2006, 07:00 PM
I'm here, just not buying at these prices. I just bought a really nice old style autographed picture though. I had never seen that particuar picture as well.

http://www.vintagegaming.org/juangonzalez/pictures.php?attachmentid=185

Gonzaleznut
12-12-2006, 02:17 AM
Yes, that is a nice one.

Have you gotten that Crayola card yet?

freddie
12-12-2006, 02:34 AM
Yes, that is a nice one.

Have you gotten that Crayola card yet?
No.

freddie
12-13-2006, 11:23 PM
Card came in, it is the same as the Crayola card .. except it doesn't say Crayola. The signature is also a facsimile.

Gonzaleznut
12-16-2006, 02:57 PM
I am really getting tired of angel-415 overbidding for low numbered cards. He is a dealer in Puerto Rico. He sells a lot to adelith. I am only peterbed because he isn't even a collector.

brugvu
01-21-2007, 12:16 AM
I have over 2,100 different juans.
Im sorry if i dont know every f'n card in existence.
ANd second of all, if you losers really want a certain card you will pay for it.
I sold a 97 precious metals PLATINUM for $50
AND i put up the biggest rarest juans i had, iwanted to make quick money. i dont have time to put up on ebay a 91 topps mini or a certain 97 atomic refractor (which you dont own (haha).)
yeah i got your list you big loser.

Sorry gonzonerd for selling my gonzos at a higher price then white trash walmart shoppers like yourself can afford..

PS. YOU STARTED THIS WHOLE THING.
GROW UP.

I spent 10 years collecting JUAN GONE.

AND I LOST 90% of what i paid for them back before card market CRASHED.
I am a collector of Juan, not some card collector who happened to have one or 2 cards and wants to get rid of them.

Why don't you sell your Juans?????? are you 4 years old and can't get rid of that teddy bear you have been holding on to? Drooling all over it.

And plus i don't have time to PRICE OUT 2,100 differ Juanos.
I have no clue if they are worth $100 50 25 or 2.

I just made a rough guess.

SO f off.

Thanks.

Mike M AKA BRUGVU AKA kiss my ASS.

Juan is a ROIDER. like bonds and SOSA. A REAL LOSER!

brugvu
01-21-2007, 12:32 AM
I cant believe i lowered my self to be in a JUAN GOING GOING GONE BLOG SITE.

What am i, a loser? whats next a SAMMY SOSA blog site..
Hey RANGERS, what are you going to do get ralphy, Juano, and Sammy all together agian, and have a steroid in the ass contest?

hey Gonzaleznerd, I did take a look at your list.
I found a bunch of cards you needed.
bowman atomic refractors....etc
preferred tins GOLD big ones.... etc

I have been really busy and forgot about it.

This is your last chance to get what you need.
I will sell no less then HALF BECKETT.

I cant believ what a hit i took. roughly 90%

A $100 card (i paid $50 in 97...) is now worth $10???

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE.

thats like saying gas is now $12 a gallon.

My Juan collections is like owning the mona lisa.
or some Picassos.

Now i think of them as toilet paper.

or left over STEROID SIRINGES

Juan Gonzalez and VEGAS rigging the WORLD SERIES has lost me as a baseball fan.

ALL SPORTS ARE RIGGED ALL ATHLETES GET PAID TO DO STEROIDS AND RIG ALL OF THE GAMES IN WHICH THEY PLAY.

THAT IS WHY the N.O. SAINTS will beat the COLTS in the superbowl.

Ok.

Have fun.

MIKE

AKA brugvu/Gonzo sucks/I hate baseball. THANKS LEYLAND.

brugvu
01-21-2007, 12:43 AM
later fools.

Its bad enuff you guys sit on EBAY ALL DAY LONG.
Then you Bitch about someones auction prices.
Then you call someone an asshole?
then you losers come here and piss and whine.
YOU GUYS NEED TO GET A LIFE.

A Juan gonzalez blob site...

OH MY GOD. YOU GUYS ARE LOSERS.

I googled my nickname, cause i wanted to find something and i came across GONZALEZNERD sticking it to me.
Just like he did to me when he first emailed me about my prices.
WHAT A DICK HEAD.
RUDE and Obnoxious.

Well thats as much as i want to say about that.

I will never come here and bug you guys again.

BUY MY CARDS AND LOOK AT MY AUCTIONS... when i decide to sell again

(i'm sure angel-415 will be looking) I made $$$ off him.
hey angel sorry about the DK Gold Gonzo.. I might send you some compensation.
EMAIL ME.

BRUGVU KICKS ASS AND TAKES NAMES.