Juan Gonzalez For Sale

[Igor19]

1990 Oklahoma City 89ers Team Signed Minor League Baseball (Early Signature)
1990 Official American Association Minor League Game Used Signed Baseball (Early Signature)
1990 Upper Deck Signed Rookie (Beautiful Signture)
1990 Donruss Signed Rookie (Early Signature)
1990 Oklahoma City 89ers Minor League Signed Card (Early Signature), include a Dean Palmer and Ron Washington Signed also
1987 Gastonia Minor League Card (Dead Center)

$60 delivered.

More pics available.

Regards, Tony

[juanfan19]

Hi I sent you a PM, I will take them. Thanks

[Igor19]

Hi I sent you a PM, I will take them. Thanks

I sent a response.

[Igor19]

Items are still for sale!

[juanfan19]

As you can see below, Tony is a true jerk-off. I asked him repeatedly what he wanted for the glove, and he never responded. I asked him to show some common courtesy, and he flew off the handle, THEN he said that the other buyer fell through, and suddenly wanted to communicate.

I wouldn't deal with him, he will only email you if he wants to.

Quote:
Originally Posted by juanfan19
hey I will take them. please let me know where to paypal. Thanks

TONY'S RESPONSE:

No thanks! I don't care for how you do business. Your rude emails (Courtesy), and the number of emails you ignored me about the Black SSK Glove.

I'm sure other Gonzo fans will be interested. At $60, it's a steal.

[Igor19]

Unfortunately, he just upset because I won't sell to him. Understandable.

He sends me a PM (Private) and doesn't make the offer in the forum. I refuse to sell to him, so he comes into the forum and slams me.

His words aren't accurate, but when people want to slam, they do at will.

He figures I won't sell to him, so he'll bad mouth me so nobody else with buy the items.

I'm too old and been around to long to get into a "war of words" with people.

If interested, fine. If not, that's fine also.

Regards, Tony

[juanfan19]

Unfortunately, he just upset because I won't sell to him. Understandable.

He sends me a PM (Private) and doesn't make the offer in the forum. I refuse to sell to him, so he comes into the forum and slams me.

His words aren't accurate, but when people want to slam, they do at will.

He figures I won't sell to him, so he'll bad mouth me so nobody else with buy the items.

I'm too old and been around to long to get into a "war of words" with people.

If interested, fine. If not, that's fine also.

Regards, Tony

You are a liar. My words are 100% accurate and you know it. You say I didn't post my offer on here? Anyone who reads this thread can see where I posted that I would take them, for full price. I didn't make an offer, I said I would buy them for the $60 you asked. Earlier I also was interested in your glove, but you decided you didn't want to state a price, and chose to ignore me.

Your actions speak for themself. You deserve to be banned from this site, and if I was a moderator I would start a motion to do just that. I pity the soul who buys from you.

[Igor19]

You are a liar. My words are 100% accurate and you know it. You say I didn't post my offer on here? Anyone who reads this thread can see where I posted that I would take them, for full price. I didn't make an offer, I said I would buy them for the $60 you asked. Earlier I also was interested in your glove, but you decided you didn't want to state a price, and chose to ignore me.

Your actions speak for themself. You deserve to be banned from this site, and if I was a moderator I would start a motion to do just that. I pity the soul who buys from you.

Wow, pretty hostile because I won't sell to you. To be banned because I won't sell to you? Good thing you're not a judge in our court system. Everyone would go to jail.

You're correct. I made that comment after receiving the PM. Didn't see that you also posted in here until after my post. My error for that. Sorry!

I'm done. These type things go nowhere.

Regards, Tony

[nosterbor]

this can be worked out in the GYM!:rolleyes:

[nosterbor]

do you have any cards that are of the "rare" nature you want to sell? if so send me a private message

[freddie]

I had no problems with the items that I bought from Tony on eBay in the past.

[Igor19]

I had no problems with the items that I bought from Tony on eBay in the past.

Freddie, thanks! I think sometimes we all get frustrated and upset over many different things when dealing with each other (slow response, differences of opinion, etc.).

In this case, pretty much the same. Don't have any issues with him. Most likely just communication issues.

All is good!

Regards, Tony

[Igor19]

Heck, even I have no problem admitting I overreatcted in this situation. Nobody's perfect. We all make mistakes. We just have to get past them.

No hard feelings!

Regards, Tony

[freddie]

Really, he told you he didn't want to sell it and you kept pestering him about it, nothing really went on here, much ado about nothing.

[juanfan19]

Freddie, I agree it wasn't a big deal, I had forgotten about it until he refused to sell me the stuff he advertised and brought it back up. Simple as that.

And then he acts like everything is fine, as long as someone else buys his stuff except for me? Sorry I have a problem with that. It's not like I ripped him off, why can't we just forget about our miscommunication issues and move on?

Am I missing something here?

[Igor19]

Freddie, I agree it wasn't a big deal, I had forgotten about it until he refused to sell me the stuff he advertised and brought it back up. Simple as that.

A situation that went down the wrong path. No hard feelings. If Juanfan19 is still interested, so am I.

Regards, Tony

[Igor19]

In fairness to Juanfan19, I did react first when he offerred to buy this items, so I understand his reaction.

I just offerred him the Juan Gonzalez Black SSK Signed Game Used Glove for a steal of a price, and also told him I would throw in everything I offerred here.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200380355309&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

It's what you do when you feel you did wrong after the fact.

Regards, Tony

[Igor19]

I realize many people collect different ways and for different reasons. But as a collector, I could never understand how collectors would spend hundreds of dollars on a baseball card, but would pass on buying a piece of game used memorabilia from their favorite player. A piece that their favorite player wore during an official baseball game.

As a collector, wouldn't you also like to have a piece of game used memorabilia from your favorite player, to add to your collection of baseball cards?

Your thoughts?

Regards, Tony

[Igor19]

Juanfan19 and I are communicating. Goes to show that even when we get frustrated and stupid at times, we have to be mature enough to get past it.

Lessoned learned!

Regards, Tony

[538]

Tony,

I am interested in buying the items. Please send me an email with the detail and I will send you a m oney order.Thanks

Dan Schiff

[nosterbor]

I realize many people collect different ways and for different reasons. But as a collector, I could never understand how collectors would spend hundreds of dollars on a baseball card, but would pass on buying a piece of game used memorabilia from their favorite player. A piece that their favorite player wore during an official baseball game.

As a collector, wouldn't you also like to have a piece of game used memorabilia from your favorite player, to add to your collection of baseball cards?

Your thoughts?

Regards, Tonyunless you have it on VIDEO receving the game used item from that player,and having him put a special mark on that item,it is not game used to me! and even then!you can have all the certs in the world from even the Pope! and it would not mean any thing to me.how many bats does a player use in a season? 5-6 at the most so a great player will use less than 100 bats in a life time! there are 1000'S of Juan bats out there! and by the way batting practice is not game used! nor is spring training! even if Juan came up to me and gave me a pair of cleats he said he used in a game,well? he would have to have done it coming off the field in a game! so you see GAME USED is very cagey to me! just like the game used cards and bats. are they really!?

[Igor19]

Tony,

I am interested in buying the items. Please send me an email with the detail and I will send you a m oney order.Thanks

Dan Schiff

Hey Dan,

It's been a long time! Hope I find you doing well. I'm waiting to hear back from Juanfan19. If he decides he's not interested, they're all yours.

I will let you know as soon as I hear from him.

Regards, Tony

[538]

Tony,

I still take the boat out almost every week. I have a Tiara 3100. We have better weather than the East Coast. My wife and I took the boat to San Diego a few weeks ago. What a great city and a great place to take the boat. Sorry that you lost interest in collecting Juan items. You do have some interesting items. Does Sochi's still have a lot of his stuff or did they also purge inventory? I still like the guy even though you were right and called his career was over earlier than anyone I know. Although Becket and Sports Collectors Digest make it appear that Juan cards are not worth more than a common card the guys on this site still drive up the cost beyond any value recorded in the books. Most of the newbies on this site do not have a clue that you were one of the first collectors early in the game. I started collecting him around 1990 and I know that you were way ahead of me. I still wish that he would have hit 500 HR. You can still email me at danschiff@adelphia.net


Dan

[Igor19]

Items sold.

[Igor19]

Tony,

I am interested in buying the items. Please send me an email with the detail and I will send you a m oney order.Thanks

Dan Schiff

Dan,

I'm sorry, but Juanfan19 made the first offer to buy them. Getting past a misunderstanding, we worked it out and he bought the items.

Not sure if you only collect cards, but I have this piece left. I personally took this picture of Juan myself in 1993 at Baltimore (have the negatives) and Juan signed the picture. Comes framed.

Regards, Tony

[538]

Tony,

Thanks for the offer but I still collect just the cards.

Dan

[nosterbor]

Tony,

I still take the boat out almost every week. I have a Tiara 3100. We have better weather than the East Coast. My wife and I took the boat to San Diego a few weeks ago. What a great city and a great place to take the boat. Sorry that you lost interest in collecting Juan items. You do have some interesting items. Does Sochi's still have a lot of his stuff or did they also purge inventory? I still like the guy even though you were right and called his career was over earlier than anyone I know. Although Becket and Sports Collectors Digest make it appear that Juan cards are not worth more than a common card the guys on this site still drive up the cost beyond any value recorded in the books. Most of the newbies on this site do not have a clue that you were one of the first collectors early in the game. I started collecting him around 1990 and I know that you were way ahead of me. I still wish that he would have hit 500 HR. You can still email me at danschiff@adelphia.net


Dan
I have a Tiara 3100. open mouth insert foot! SNOB!We have better weather than the East Coast. man oh man!

[Igor19]

I would like to say that if Jacob (Juanfan19) was the last person on earth, I wouldn't deal with him again.

I ended up selling the items to Jacob. As I do with all auctions, I follow up to ensure the items were received and the buyer is satisifed. I even send the items "Priority Mail" which cost me $7 in postage. Could have easily sent them first class.

Jacob ignored every email I sent him, since he received the items.

I could have easily just sold the items to Dan Schiff, but felt since Jacob asked first, selling to Jacob I felt was the right thing to do. Even after he bashed me in this forum.

Well, obviously I was wrong!

Regards, Tony

[mcabee1]

hopefully, you at least got the money?

[juanfan19]

hopefully, you at least got the money?

I did respond. check your spam folder Tony. Thanks for the items.

[Igor19]

I did respond. check your spam folder Tony. Thanks for the items.

I assure you, spam folder wasn't an issue. I have never had issues with not receiving emails. Seems like "check you spam folder" is a common response these days from people.

Unfortuante it took me to come to this forum to get response.

I'm done!

Regards, Tony