Prices insane

[538]

I think you guys have driven up the cost of Gonzalez to high someone puts up a 16/100 card for $49

http://cgi.ebay.com/98-DONRUSS-CRUSADE-PURPLE-JUAN-GONZALEZ-16-100-MADE_W0QQitemZ360209958482QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Ba seball?hash=item53de2fc652

http://i.ebayimg.com/08/!BfkHZOwBGk~$(KGrHqMOKjcEs!TZkz3hBLBzJwszPQ~~_12.J PG

[Gonzaleznut]

Latest example of the rampant crack smoking going through the card industry. Seriously??!! $400!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/JUAN-GONZALEZ-2005-PRIME-QUAD-PATCHES-AUTO-5-7-AMAZING_W0QQitemZ150391676661QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS _Baseball?hash=item23040adef5

[mcabee1]

its the juan collectors faults..... although, not even our biggest spenders will come close to that - its a $50 to $60 card that 1 or 2 guys will end up paying double that for it

[nosterbor]

here is another one
item number 270293194639
2003 Topps Prime Cuts Trademark Relics #JG Juan Gonzalez serial number 060/100

i paid $50 a little over a year ago for the first one and was very happy! i only put a bid of $14 on this one and was shocked i won it for $13+ an insane price!. 18% of book!!! if you think you think you can get a card like this for 7 bucks 9% of book,dream on or keep collecting NOBODYS! deals are still out there! this WAS one of them!:D

[mcabee1]

the question you have to ask is why does a juan card #ed to 100 book that hi while others #ed to 100 book for as little as $2???? while i agree $2 may be too low, there isnt a Gonzo card #ed to 100 worth even $20 (maybe $20 if it had a cool patch or auto)

[nosterbor]

what about the 1998 collectors choice series 2 starquest home run serial numbered to 100? no one has ever seen it! yes it is numbered to 100,but how many set builders are there that this card is in their collection? it is not just Roberto and I that rase the prices on his cards.it is the NITCH collector that has out bid me on a lot of his cards that i need or want.here is a card that has come on ebay 4 times the last 3 years and not one collector on this site has it!!! not one!

http://www.juangone.com/pictures.php?cardid=1933

i was out bid big time on this every time,and all 4 went close to $100 it books at $30 how many of these are printed? i would say 50-100.Nitch collectors kill the prices of his cards also. i would take all the 1997 and 1998 century marks at this price of $20 i could find.

[mcabee1]

but you are the only one (besides roberto) who would bid on that card...... eventually, these packs will fall into someones hands will open them and have them. you will drive the 1st one up to $150. the 2nd will fetch $100, but after that they will fall substantially. there are not that many set collectors and only 6-7 serious juan collectors. w/ 100 copies, you will eventually have it for way cheaper. just think about the 96 mirror gold and 93 refractor. dont you wish you could go back and tell yourself to wait?

[freddie]

The prices on the site are from Aug 2006 Beckett. They haven't been updated since so I don't know if you can rely on them at all. Beckett probably says Juan's card are worth nothing now. Anyone checked lately?

[nosterbor]

The prices on the site are from Aug 2006 Beckett. They haven't been updated since so I don't know if you can rely on them at all. Beckett probably says Juan's card are worth nothing now. Anyone checked lately? he is a semi star. i do not think you can go by beckett any more the price is who wants it and how bad on any card,any player.

[538]

On the other hand....I picked up a 2004 auto for $7.50?

2004 Timeless Treasures JUAN GONZALEZ AUTO #4/25 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300369983973&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT)







$7.50

[nosterbor]

but you are the only one (besides roberto) who would bid on that card...... eventually, these packs will fall into someones hands will open them and have them. you will drive the 1st one up to $150. the 2nd will fetch $100, but after that they will fall substantially. there are not that many set collectors and only 6-7 serious juan collectors. w/ 100 copies, you will eventually have it for way cheaper. just think about the 96 mirror gold and 93 refractor. dont you wish you could go back and tell yourself to wait? i opened 30 cases + 300 boxes+ of the 98 collectors choice series 2 and got 2 of those! do a google search on those boxes or packs NOTHING! there are none left to open,they were so cheap to open THEY HAVE ALL BEEN OPENED.ALSO THERE ARE 1000's of insert builders out there. with those sets i am one of them.all the collectors choice inserts sets i am building.i am missing 40 of the 94 gold sigs have a complete set of 94-96 silver sigs missing 25 95 gold sigs.i am missing 3 98 series 2 triple's i did not even bother with the 4 star home run because they are not out there. even the 99 ud choice starquest gold are tuff! but not as so the 98 home runs.i think a lot of them were destroyed! for whatever reason. i also gave up on the 96 series 2 gold sigs,they are like finding hens teeth! also i think there are way more mirror golds then they say there are "Stated print run of 30" B.S. why do you think they did not serial number them? but yet pinnacle serial numbered a lot of inserts that year! sounds like a load of crap to me that only 30 were made. look at the 97 mirror golds.how many of those do i have? STATED ODDS 1-299 LOOK AT IT THIS WAY,IF I OPENED UP 6279 PACKS 627 CASES AT 5 BUCKS A PACK WOULD HAVE COST $31,395 AND GOT A MIRROR GOLD IN EVERY 299 PACKS AND ALL WERE JUAN WHAT WOULD THOSE ODDS BE? MORE THAN A GOOGLEPLEX! THERE ARE 150 CARDS IN THE SET! THE ODDS ON PULLING ONE JUAN IS 1-44,850 PACKS AT A COST OF $224,250. SO THE TRUE COST OF MY 20+ 1997 JUAN GONZALEZ MIRROR GOLDS ARE $4,485,000 SO WHY DID PINNACLE GO BROKE????????? THAT IS ONE CARD FROM ONE SET OF ONE PLAYER. NOW TIMES THAT BY 150 PLAYERS SO WHY DID THEY GO BROKE?

[mcabee1]

one card........ how many cards do we need to run up? I bet you paid over $100 for your 1st 97 mirror gold.

[mcabee1]

so you are the one who put PINN out of business. they took their $4 million and said, thats enough, Ill think I will go home.

[mcabee1]

you are the welfare for card companies Mr Obama.... you gave them no incentive to keep working - j/k

[nosterbor]

one card........ how many cards do we need to run up? I bet you paid over $100 for your 1st 97 mirror gold.$28 in 2000 at a show. and for the 96 a PSA9 for $110 at the end of 2007.

[nosterbor]

its the juan collectors faults..... although, not even our biggest spenders will come close to that - its a $50 to $60 card that 1 or 2 guys will end up paying double that for itdo you know hard hard it is to give up a serial numbered to 10 card is? the only one you have of Juan? and may not get another one? hum? VERY! just to show you that set builders are out there and also jacking up the prices,here is one i just sold to a vistor to this site. i told him i do not sell Juan's that i only have ONE of.he or she was very persistant.so i said make me an offer i can not refuse!

http://www.juangone.com/pictures.php?cardid=4100

this person came back with $125 no B.S i paid $100 for it almost 2 years ago!.now it is Juan Gone! that was VERY VERY TOUGH! it is not Roberto and myself just doing it. watch out for the super set builder!

[538]

Rob,

I randomly pulled out one small box of cards and looked at the serial numbers. So based on you set collector theory what would the following cards fetch from my one box:

2004 Timeless Treasure Rookie Year Materials X/5
2004 Leaf Certified Mirror Emerold X/5
2003 Donruss Gamers X/10
2004 Donruss Press Proof X/10
2003 Leaf Limited Threads X/10
2004 Studio Proof X/10
2003 Absolute Tools of The Trade X/10
2003 Donruss Timeless Treasures X/10

Do I need to look at some of my other 538 cards in boxes?

538

[nosterbor]

Rob,

I randomly pulled out one small box of cards and looked at the serial numbers. So based on you set collector theory what would the following cards fetch from my one box:

2004 Timeless Treasure Rookie Year Materials X/5
2004 Leaf Certified Mirror Emerold X/5
2003 Donruss Gamers X/10
2004 Donruss Press Proof X/10
2003 Leaf Limited Threads X/10
2004 Studio Proof X/10
2003 Absolute Tools of The Trade X/10
2003 Donruss Timeless Treasures X/10

Do I need to look at some of my other 538 cards in boxes?

538am i to have card envy? ask Chris not me! and if you have those why are they not on your list? ohhhh thats right what do you know,you only have 538 cards!

[mcabee1]

careful all.............. my ebay acct has been hacked and bids have been placed on cards. working to get it resolved now but ebay stinks

[nosterbor]

careful all.............. my ebay acct has been hacked and bids have been placed on cards. working to get it resolved now but ebay stinks
i thought so! very sorry to hear that, good luck with it.hope they find the A-- HOLES!!

ON THE OTHER HAND I WAS HOPING YOU WENT MADD!;)

[jjt111]

OK, I decide to buy myself a Christmas gift and I'm out gunned! Hopefully this is a Juan collector and not a set collector!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330388806352

Jonas

[freddie]

Rob is the high bidder.

[nosterbor]

i have 4600 feedback Mike has 1046 feedback

[Gonzaleznut]

It is me. But I promise you I will not win that card.

[538]

The plot thickens as we now know who is the grinch that stole Chrismas!

[jjt111]

Maybe I'll lose out to Chris's stolen identity, as you know it's the time of year to celebrate the victory of the Macabees!

:)
Jonas

[nosterbor]

insane price?not to the person who won it!once again a non Juan collector!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380190764537&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT