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Gonzaleznut 11-30-2010 02:58 PM

HOF Ballot
 
Juan is on his first ballot. Will he even get the 5% needed to stay on for another year? Here is the official ballot. Who should get in?

http://baseballhall.org/news/voting-...inal-countdown

freddie 12-01-2010 05:24 AM

ROBERTO ALOMAR
JEFF BAGWELL
BERT BLYLEVEN
BARRY LARKIN
EDGAR MARTINEZ
MARK McGWIRE
RAFAEL PALMEIRO
TIM RAINES

nosterbor 12-01-2010 03:23 PM

ROBERTO ALOMAR
JEFF BAGWELL
BERT BLYLEVEN
JUAN GONZALEZ
FRED McGRIFF
MARK McGWIRE
RAFAEL PALMEIRO
LEE SMITH

Gonzaleznut 12-01-2010 05:50 PM

ROBERTO ALOMAR
JEFF BAGWELL
BERT BLYLEVEN
JOHN FRANCO
JUAN GONZALEZ
BARRY LARKIN
FRED McGRIFF
MARK McGWIRE
RAFAEL PALMEIRO
TIM RAINES
LEE SMITH

Gonzaleznut 01-05-2011 09:11 PM

Voting results released:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/hof_2011.shtml

At least he gets to stay on the ballot another year.

rfurnish 01-05-2011 10:25 PM

Not that I thought he would make it, but this is pretty disappointing to only get 5.2% of the vote. I thought that the 2 MVPs, the 2 home run titles (before Canseco got to the Rangers), and the playoff performance against the Yankees would get him more consideration than this; and definitely more than some of the guys who got more votes than he did.

I did watch a show on the MLB network just prior to the announcement. They showed several Juan Gonzalez highlights. Then Bob Costas came on and started explaining how much things had changed and that Juans slugging % was better than Musials...and that even though Musial was an automatic for the hall, he would NEVER vote for Juan Gonzalez.

The writers may vocally state that Canseco isn't a credible source of information, but their votes are validating him as being reputable. I was surprised that on the show, they really kept promoting Bagwell...I guess his friendship with Caminiti doesn't concern them.

The Hall of Fame and the village of Cooperstown has a real mess on their hands here. If all the suspected steroid guys are kept out, the hall membership either gets watered down or doesn't grow. I know that the folks up there really count on induction weekend for their economy so this doesn't bode well for them.

mcabee1 01-06-2011 05:20 AM

Its more than the roids.... he made a lot of writers really mad by boycotting the AS game. Is there anyone who doesnt think Barry Larkin took roids? Everyone is talking about how they think he will get in.

nosterbor 01-06-2011 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mcabee1 (Post 6486)
Its more than the roids.... he made a lot of writers really mad by boycotting the AS game. Is there anyone who doesnt think Barry Larkin took roids? Everyone is talking about how they think he will get in.

if Ozzie smith is a HOFer then Larkin is!
P.S.
i think the WIZ in the hall is a J O K E !!!! lifetime SLG % of .328 is not even in the top 2000 players all time! i guess BACK FLIPS helps get you in. it is a HALL OF SHAME TO ME!

538 01-07-2011 02:40 PM

I agree that Juan's cry baby act of not going to the All Star game will not be forgiven. He also acted like a baby at not being a starter in the All Star game. People do not forget things like that.

freddie 01-07-2011 04:47 PM

.. and the whining about baggy pants for the hall of fame game. Though, really, he should have been applauded for that considering the baggy pants worn by some players everyday.

nosterbor 01-07-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by freddie (Post 6490)
.. and the whining about baggy pants for the hall of fame game. Though, really, he should have been applauded for that considering the baggy pants worn by some players everyday.

PLAYERS? when was the last time you were to a mall? i saw a kid with his belt just above his knee's. i was laughing my as off.and he saw me and said " what the hell you laffen at old man" i said " are you kidding me? go look in the mirror! they sell suspenders in the mens dept!"

rfurnish 01-07-2011 07:40 PM

If they base it on how much whining is done at all-star game time, then Griffey Jr has no chance. He had to be voted into the game and then be asked three times every year if he would please, please, please come. I can't stand that friggin' guy and his antics. Plus take away him away from that old little league field he played most of his career up in Seattle (before they built the new one and he had to conveniently get out of town to go play in the bandbox in Cincinnati) and his home run totals would've dropped dramatically.


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