Totally shocked!!

[mcabee1]

real or not real...... does it matter? he isnt getting rid of them. if you want them, you better get the cards in advance of the payment.

[juanfan19]

Dan, I have respect for your opinion, although I disagree. I can't see someone forging Juan's signature, Jordan's, Tiger Woods, someone like that, but Gonzo? Nah, that's not going to happen. I could be wrong, but that is my opinion.

The fact that it has a gold B stamped on the back further legitimizes it to me. I would rather have a red signed one with a gold b, than an unstamped one signed in blue or black.

which one do you think PSA would authenticate? 1. Red sig, gold stamp on back. 2. Black sig, no stamp on back. One is an official pack pull, the other isn't.

Chris, I wouldn't sell them to you if you paid me the full grand. $300? I wouldn't sell the red one for that alone, much less to you. I blocked you from bidding on my auctions a long time ago (when you got your 50th negative feedback).

This thread is a hoot, although I'm not sure what the point of it is. Carry on!

[freddie]

The prices that you group of guys are willing to pay for Juan cards is the reason that someone WOULD forge a signature.

.. but really, Jacob can offer his cards for whatever he wants, what exactly is the point of this thread?

[538]

Jacob,

I have pointed out to the guys on this site that someone is putting out fake 1987 Gastonia cards. The difference between the fake and real card is that the (c) on the real one is smaller than the fake reprint. They did not get the font size or did not realize it when they reissued new 1987 Gastonia. There are other examples that have come up. The point is that there are Gonzalez cards that are fake out there.

The second point is that although Juan is not on the radar of Becket, or anyone else, this fan site is an indication that people on this site either claim to have these cards ( we have at least one nut cases who could not possibly have the Gonzalez cards he claims) or we have lots of nuts willing to drive up the cost of a card to add to their collection. The bottom line is that dealers are feeding into the viewers of this site. As an example, I have about 360 different PSA 10 cards. Why do you think dealers even consider turning into PSA Gonzalez cards? The answer is that I keep bidding and buying.

Jacob, I still like you but the red card is still fake. It may be a one of a kind fake, which make owning it interesting, but it is still fake. This card walks like a duck, quakes like a duck and is a duck. I also spoke to one of two guys who flew to Puerto Rico to get Juan to sign the cards and he told me the problem with the ink and how they could not get it to stick to the glossy surface of the cards. This is the guy that sold be the B cards that are unsigned. That is why there is black and blue ink. This is also why I really think your card is fake.

538

[nosterbor]

according to Dan the graded card is a counterfeit. also who are you referring to as the nut case that they could not possibly have all the cards they say they have??? hummmm?

[freddie]

Yes, it is fake. I bought one of these 3 years ago. Nothing new here.

http://www.juangone.com/showthread.p...light=gastonia