how could we forget these!

[nosterbor]

the 1st is a 1999 Topps all Topps mystery finest Sammy Sosa, card # M13

the 2nd is a 1999 Topps all Topps Mystery Finest Ken Griffey JR,card # M14

the 3rd is the Griffey refractor

when i find the Sosa refractor i will put on a scan

these came with a cool holographic pebbly dot coating on the front that you had to peal off to see who's card you got, i have one of those somewhere

[nosterbor]

if you could add these as a variation

[jjt111]

I think we need a calm, no insult discussion about this. We have agreed in the past not to add cameo cards of Juan. But I do collect them just like I do back door print plates. Doe's this fall in that category, an odd ball addition or a addition to his cards. It shouldn't be a variation as it is another players card, I think.

Thoughts please!
Jonas

[nosterbor]

Originally Posted by jjt111

I think we need a calm, no insult discussion about this. We have agreed in the past not to add cameo cards of Juan. But I do collect them just like I do back door print plates. Doe's this fall in that category, an odd ball addition or a addition to his cards. It shouldn't be a variation as it is another players card, I think.

Thoughts please!
Jonas

you are correct it is an oddball! a variation would be a Juan card such as a wrong back or no serial number.

[adelith]

I agree it's an oddball like the Travis Fryman and the others I add to the Oddball list in the past.

Originally Posted by jjt111

I think we need a calm, no insult discussion about this. We have agreed in the past not to add cameo cards of Juan. But I do collect them just like I do back door print plates. Doe's this fall in that category, an odd ball addition or a addition to his cards. It shouldn't be a variation as it is another players card, I think.

Thoughts please!
Jonas

They should not be on the list at all. They are not Juan Gonzalez items...they just happen to have Juan Gonzalez on them.

I know I will be overruled, but just my opinion.

[jzk_ksy]

I agree with Mike on this one...I also feel the Fryman and other Cameos should not be listed...I'm not putting a Fryman card in my Gonzo collection...its not an error or variation...it's a Travis Fryman card!!!Also just my opinion...

Kevin

[adelith]

Don't forget this, to find stuff for your collections there is Beckett.
To make a difference among the different collectors site's around there is www.juangone.com. If Juan's picture on it, it should be listed here!

[mcabee1]

i would rather have that than those game cards that have nothing but black and white letters on them

[nosterbor]

Roberto please add them to the oddball list> thanks,Rob.