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Old 02-02-2009
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Old 02-02-2009
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Under Rob's theory, shouldn't this be a separate item on the list as well??

http://cgi.ebay.com/1990-Donruss-Rac...QQcmdZViewItem

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1994 post 1994 post 1994 post 1994 post 1994 post! and yes the racks are diff not the same did i ask to have them put on NOOOOOOOOO!.look that word up "same" sorry but you just will never win this argument,where is the photo of Flex Jose and Chuck Knoblauch on the single card.they are the same. "identical,equal"
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Thank you very much Jonas! I'd won the following please review it and decide wether this should or should not be added.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0294%26fvi%3D1

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Its always been my opinion that its only a different item if I couldnt make it myself. If I can cut it or erase it to get the same effect, its not a different item. You can erase the ink off of any early Upper Deck card and call it a blank back. You cannot do that with a Topps card. The material is different so a blank back Topps card is a variation but a 1990 UD is not (again, my opinion). The magazine and box cards are not different although its cool to have both pics listed. Most of those type cards were not issued anyway but uncut and someone then cut them. The proof cards are different as you cannot add paper to get it like that and the sheets were not distributed to us common folks. As I said b4, I ran across uncut Mothers cookies from 91 & 92. I would like the pic added for all to see (when I get around to scanning it), but under the same listing as the cut version as they are the same card. Just my thoughts and nobody has to agree as it doesnt really matter if a few get left off or a few get added that shouldnt.
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is this a proof? i have never seen any thing like it,it is clear plastic,same size as the reg card,it looks like a negitive!i do not know of a process where it can be faked.however all the proofs of this type would not have the foil copy on them the ultra logo and his name. this is added later. i think it is a reproduction and maybe a fake. need some info please.it is very cool!!!
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Roberto, I think your item is what it says a promotional and should be listed.

Rob, Like you say that is weird that it has the foil shadows on it yet not colored and on plastic. Unless it was used as a counter plate to apply the foil to the card base and over time you get a color mix that would create such a thing. But that is a long shot and only a guess.
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Chris,

I have a 2000 Pacific Omega press plate
I have a 2000 Pacific Omega uncut sheet
I have a 2000 Pacific Omega over size proof
I have a 2000 Pacific Card

Because the Plate is a back door plate and not marked 1/1, I feel everyone would like to know of their exsistance by having a scan of each on the card page. I wouldn't care who has what but it's nice to know it's out their somewhere. Having the family tree on one page, one item, is kinda cool when you can add pictures to a list. I can see the need to list the whole tree without that option but Freddie has given us such great tools!

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