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Roberto! you are beating a very dead horse that has be degrading on the ground for 8 months,and is no more than bleached bones!that was the last time i asked for all of those to be added! if it is not theirs,it will not be added!
THE POWERS THAT BE! |
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My opinion on cut out panels has been expressed many times. In this auction, 190257618442, the seller even says its a cut out from a sheet yet calls it a proof. So isn't the sheet the actually proof and cutting the card out is nothing more then a cut out. I have many of these but have them under miscellaneous collectibles. They are great things to have but nothing more then having a glove, shirt or paints card of different colors or a hand autographed card. I don't have a problem listing them under odd ball as panel cards or oversize card but I think we are misleading collectors into thinking it is the same as the proofs that are listed that were designed to be a solo individual card proof.
It's only my opinion. I removed my magazine cut outs, Legends, Ballstreet and such from my personal list and added them to my Misc list as everyone convinced me that they shouldn't be with them. But then to see other cut outs added did frustrate me especially the using the name "proof" with them. My personal list has them as "panels". I do list the different variation of cards as we do here but call them what they are "misfits". Unless I find that there were more then one made. I lost my mother-in-law recently and with my wife being one of fourteen children it's pretty hectic around here. She was a huge Phillies fan and I'm sure at 82 she isn't in their outfield but I expect she's rooting them on in some pretty good seats. She was a saint in my eyes and I will miss her dearly. I rebuilt her home three times in nine years from river floods and had the pleasure of her living with us doing those times. Time heals I know and expect things to get back to normal after those stupid Phillies win the WS Jonas |
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First of all, I am in the investments world and, needless to say, I have been a little busy. It is not a huge priority for me to come home after a shitty day and add cards to the list that I think are totally crap!! I 100% agree with Jonas. ALL of these are simply cards cut from a sheet and called "proofs". Prove to me that it was an actual part of the printing process by card manufacturers and I will happily add them.
By the way, I spilled beer on a double of a 1992 Topps card. I think that should be added as a variation. Hell, it should be on the 1 of 1 list because I don't think anyone else could get the stain to look exactly the way I have it.
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I'm totally agree:
1- They are cut offs from a sheet, I've just receive a 199? Topps Stadium Club Members Only Ring Leaders Uncut of Juan Gonzalez that shows 3/4 of an inch more of the design, than the insert card. It is great to see the whole image, but that does not mean it is a proof card, in my opinion. 2- Maybe we should add them on the oddball list, or add a miscellanius list. I personally would take them out of the regular card list. 3- It is not right to have some listed and some not listed. 4- I suggest to remove the sample cards from the 1/1 list also, I think they should be list as that, samples. It's been proven that exist more than one of some of them! Ps. I'm very sorry to hear about your loss , specially when you have such a good relationship with her. Quote:
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Last edited by nosterbor; 10-17-2008 at 11:23 PM. Reason: correct |
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Jonas the Sunoco card already exist in the list, but there is no picture of the card, also I've add the Donruss Crusade Red and a 1992 error card. Could you please add those pictures?
Thank you in advance. Roberto. Quote:
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Wow...The Crusade red is an awesome card!!!
Kevin |
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where is it?
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2nd. page of this thread, with the rest of the pictures I posted and have not been added yet.
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